Overhaul bus system

Current system does not support the green agenda enough.

Parent and child direct school buses. Shuttle link buses from schools to town and back. Bus hubs out of town. (Why not try a pilot on one of the routes?)

Replace existing fleet with either electric or hydrogen.

Why the contribution is important

Too many cars driving into town but a viable solution is required. It is unrealistic to think that everyone will cycle everywhere, especially with kids which probably makes up the bigger percentage of car use in Jersey.

by brendlynch on February 04, 2021 at 08:23AM

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  • Posted by SimonLanglois February 05, 2021 at 19:00

    Jersey is ideal for electric or hydrogen buses as it's only 10 x 5 miles and our electricity is carbon neutral (whether used for charging electric vehicle batteries or making hydrogen).

    It was disappointing that Liberty Bus didn't follow through with their electric bus service - let's hope they resolve their problems and go down the carbon neutral path. If not, then it will be down to legislation to make it happen.
  • Posted by TheResearcher February 07, 2021 at 21:01

    Jersey is so far behind on electric transport. People complain about the emissions China produces, but it is way ahead of Jersey with electrified public transport.

    "China leads the world in deployment of electric vehicles. At the end of June 2019, almost half the electric cars and 99% of the electric buses in the world were in China. China also dominates global markets for low-speed electric vehicles and electric two-wheelers."
    https://chineseclimatepolic[…]ia.edu/en/electric-vehicles

    I suggest watching "The City with 16,000 Electric Buses & 22,000 Electric Taxis" to see what CAN be done, if the authorities have the courage to make the important decision that need to be made, if they are to reach the CO2 target they themselves set, and also to give us all the clean air to breathe that we all deserve.

    Watch "The City with 16,000 Electric Buses & 22,000 Electric Taxis
    https://youtu.be/0P7fTPLSMeI
  • Posted by brendlynch February 08, 2021 at 14:39

    This is what I find astonishing. Cities and towns all over the world committing to this type of technology yet the Jersey terrain is apparently not suited to electric buses and they do not have adequate range (or so we are being told). Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the route that was trialled predominantly flat apart from a 3/4 mile hill at St Aubin?
  • Posted by TheResearcher February 09, 2021 at 18:31

    brendlynch,

    Absolutely! It's a total cop out by Liberty Bus, because if it had been successful it would have cost them a lot of money. An electric bus costs about twice as much as a diesel. So fail the test that The States have been asking for and blame the bus, make the excuse that they are all the same.

    The solutions are out there, I've found plenty of them, but The States have to go through Liberty Bus to get them, and Liberty Bus are obviously not trying very hard due to the cost.

    We should have a State run bus company, then we can have electric busses, we can even have free busses, which will get loads of people out of combustion engined vehicles.
  • Posted by brendlynch February 10, 2021 at 18:19

    Well the bus tender is up very soon so now is the ideal time to make it a requirement for the next bus contract rather than in another 10 years !
  • Posted by Ourjay1984 February 12, 2021 at 13:12

    Electric buses for the smaller buses. But you would be best getting hydrogen buses for the double deckers. Hydrogen cochlea are quicker to fill up than electric ce holes. Remember that episode on top gear, james May in a hydrogen car and clarkson in a electric car. They both agreed hydrogen was better
  • Posted by brendlynch February 13, 2021 at 12:16

    Agreed - in my opinion hydrogen is the way forward a d we should be trialling this. Wright are at the cutting edge of this tech.
  • Posted by TheResearcher February 18, 2021 at 14:07

    Hydrogen refuelling, you have to think of the cost of importing tankers full of Hydrogen, and then storing it. Never going to happen in the next 50 years as it will cost many multiples of what the electric costs, and we have nowhere to store it. Electric busses are absolutely fine, proven by numerous cities around the world, we do not need Hydrogen. A single biased Top Gear episode does not count as a valid reason to skip electric busses.

    "As highlighted during an interview we had with Aleksandra O’Donovan, Head of Electrified Transport at BloombergNEF, «Deployment of e-buses in the municipal environment continues to increase. We now expect municipal buses to go electric faster than any other segments of road transport, with e-buses comprising over 67% of the global bus fleet in 2040. (…) We expect municipal e-buses to rise from 417,000 units in 2019 to over 645,000 units in 2025 (about 39% of the global municipal bus fleet)"
    https://www.sustainable-bus.com/[…]/
  • Posted by JerseyFleur February 21, 2021 at 14:23

    Electric buses seems an obvious start, the speed of re-charging them can be built into the bus route and to be honest, we would benefit from smaller but more frequent buses as they pose a serious risk to cyclists and bikers at the bends of small roads!

    I'd also like to see us trialing a few routes with space for surfboards, for example. In places like Geneva, buses, trams, trains and coaches all allow you to carry skis and snowboards and very few people I knew owned a car because they could enjoy being outdoors and doing winter sports without owning one.

    I wouldn't need to even own a car if I could take my surfboard on the bus and the bus system allowed you to book 'through tickets' or 'time limit tickets' (ie. if I could book St Clements to St Ouens for the single price of £2.50 or something) or allowed me to travel for 1hr on a single ticket. It's great that we can grow up on an island with beautiful countryside and watersports but, as flats without parking spaces become the majority, without a better transport system, future generations who don't have cars will miss out on the type of wild, watery childhood I was fortunate enough to have.
  • Posted by TheResearcher March 15, 2021 at 16:26

    Meanwhile, the UK isn't sitting around talking about it, they are doing it.

    Boris Johnson unveils £3bn bus revolution in ‘act of levelling up’

    Buses will be more frequent, cheaper, greener and easier to use thanks to a £3 billion revolution, the Government has said.

    The Government is promising to deliver 4,000 new British-built electric or hydrogen buses, transition cities and regions across England to emission-free buses, and safeguard the UK bus manufacturing industry.

    It is pledging to end sales of new diesel buses, and has launched a consultation on the end date.

    https://www.lep.co.uk/news/[…]act-of-levelling-up-3165933
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