Subsidised or Tax relief on Solar Panels

The Government could support the people and/or business with support to Solar Panels on roof either for heating water or Generating electricity the later could be used to charge electric cars and to support the electricity grid

Why the contribution is important

To reduce the reliance of fossil fuels used by home owners and businesses 

by PirateZebedee on February 03, 2021 at 07:56PM

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  • Posted by Shanti February 03, 2021 at 21:55

    It is a disgrace how few solar panels are on the island. This should be mandatory for each new-built and mayor house renovation. Subsidies would certainly help.
  • Posted by NickPalmer February 03, 2021 at 23:43

    Solar PV panels would be of little or no use for reducing Jersey's carbon footprint. Jersey's electricity supply is already low carbon from France. Installing lots of PV panels would only INCREASE Jersey's Scope 3 carbon emissions
  • Posted by PirateZebedee February 04, 2021 at 12:26

    Jersey still has the power station on standby to produce power when we has peak load and/or if the power fails from France, having home with solar panels connected to batteries could help towards reduce the reliance on the power station, France also produces power from carbon sources

    https://www.rte-france.com/en/eco2mix/co2-emissions

    we could also produce hot water from solar panels , even if it doesn't get to high temperature required, it can raise the temperature to reduce the amount of power (carbon) needed to heat it the rest of the way using electricity, gas or oil

    every little helps
  • Posted by TKHathaway February 04, 2021 at 14:41

    I personally would agree with NickPalmer on this. PV based solar panels would do little to reduce our carbon footprint by feeding/supplementing into grid electricity. This type of solar panel, as well as the batteries needed to store the energy, often use rare earth minerals and metals that have their own environmental cost.

    In terms of heating water, or running a stirling engine using a thermal gradient attached to dynamo, that is a different matter. However there is always going to be questions of 'does this generate enough hot water for the general person to prefer over a electric boiler/heater'? I don't think most people would like a 'downgrade' of typical property amenities.

    if the answer is that 'yes there are enough commercially viable products that utilize a solar thermal heat source that can be easily incorporated into new builds - and these are as good as traditional alternatives', then I would say, yes, we should be asking the question of why can't this be part of new building standards? Yet I would also say that if the grid electricity is reasonably green in the first place (like ours in Jersey generally is), then having an electric water heater isn't 'a bad thing'.

    Gas or oil fueled water boilers are for the most part less environmentally friendly than electric, and so we can make a clear argument here. But, I don't think the same fully applies to the type of solar water heaters people put on their houses.

    That said - hopefully somebody who owns such a device can give us some of their anecdotes from their personal experience?
  • Posted by Kat February 04, 2021 at 16:35

    If solar panels are not a good solution why is the JEC installing them on their properties? Much of our energy from France is nuclear ( some hydro) and it would be healthy not to rely on it with all the worries of waste storage and transportation. Jersey is ideal for solar energy as it slopes south.
    The JEC knows this:
    They have installed it on the roofs of Powerhouse, the Power station, Trinity Farm, Jersey Dairy and (according to their website) are in talks with 25 businesses and landowners to do more.
    I really do not understand why the power of individuals and their properties is not harnessed to get all our roofs helping towards making us more sustainable. Prices are greatly reducing but we need reasonably priced installers and a grant would also help.
  • Posted by SimonLanglois February 07, 2021 at 15:44

    NickPalmer - The less demand we have on zero-carbon French (EDF) electricity, the more they can sell to neighbouring countries to offset the fossil fuel they burn to meet their demands. So although, as you say, it wouldn't reduce our own carbon footprint, it would help other countries to reduce theirs with minimal addition to our Scope 3 figures.
  • Posted by NickPalmer February 08, 2021 at 12:37

    Simon Langlois. Although I didn't make your point above, I have made it many times as being one of the only reasons why PV panels should be installed. Resilience against the French deciding to 'pull the plug' is, of course another one. Solar thermal vacuum tubes (hot water) are of course much more sensible.
  • Posted by ozzyjon February 10, 2021 at 15:00

    Considering our low/no carbon electricity imports from France this only way this makes sense is if we subsidise home owners away from natural gas or oil fired.

    There is no 'lower emissions' to be gained for homes already using electric for their space heating. Therefore, for those households, a switch to solar should really be made on economic reasons alone i.e. is it cheaper for the resident?
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